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 Post subject: BUBINGA DESIGNER BOP
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:17 pm 
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"You'll have to pay with a Walmart money order."

"What? "

Buying this kit was like accomplishing the Twelve Labors of Hercules. And not the least of those labors was dealing with the eccentricities of the seller. The initial problems of packing and shipping gave way to the fact that he had nothing but a PO address in Florida, that he lives in a motor home, that the music store advertising the kit on the internet didn't have the kit in the store... and now the seller refused all methods of payment but a Walmart money order or cash. :shock: :? :shock:

Regardless of the red flags flying, that let me out because I didn't have the money, full stop.

That was in early July. About a month ago, I had the funds and the kit was still available. I checked his single reference, who happened to be my old drum teacher in Oregon. That was the one detail that gave me confidence. Otherwise, I would have balked. There were a series of moments I wanted to balk after that, like when he bought five boxes for a hundred bucks and charged me for them; like every time he told me all about Sonor drums even after I let him know I was fairly familiar with the marque, and even though he got most of the details wrong. And there were times I began to have serious doubts, like when the post office in Florida called me and said that the PO box I'd sent the checks to had been vacated and no name like the seller's had ever been attached to it (turns out he had transposed the box number), or like when he wouldn't send the drums right away after he got the money orders because his bank wouldn't cash them right away. And then there were the shipping issues, how the drums got staggered in shipping and at least one of the boxes never showed up until they had all arrived in Wisconsin.

When the drums arrived, the hundred dollar boxes were junk; I could have picked them up in the grocery store for free. Fortunately the drums were packed in ancient but sturdy cases. The 14 had a small (not shipping related) hole in the batter head, right next to the bearing edge, but gratefully no damage to the shell. Why would anyone sell and ship drums like these with a hole in the head?

Today, I got back from traveling over the Thanksgiving holiday, and the last bit had arrived in the mail; a drum key ("Sonor keys are like NOTHING else...!" :roll: ) and the tongue under the screw that holds the bass mounted tom stand in position. True to form, the pieces were in good shape, but he had managed to wrap them in such a way that it required all my strength and a utility knife to free them from the box. I consider that to be emblematic of the entire experience.

It was one of those deals that asked the question: "How much do you want that kit?" The answer was: "What it takes."

And now, playing them again, it was all worthwhile. What a fantastic kit! Thanks to Tim for having alerted me to it.

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 Post subject: Re: BUBINGA DESIGNER BOP
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:02 am 
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Hi Gregory,
I believe I spoke with your seller about a bubinga (I think Signature) snare drum at a pretty good price. Nope, it was a black Sonorlite! I really wanted the drum, but the seller wigged me out big time. I simply couldn't afford to lose the money, so I backed away.
Beautiful Set, BTW...
:ugeek: Brian

PS Was your seller named Ronni?

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 Post subject: Re: BUBINGA DESIGNER BOP
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:06 am 
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That's a movie with a happy-end...

Although, it looks like the movie was a 4-hour drama/thriller... :lol:


Congratulations nevertheless Gregory... You deserve those.
And DON'T SELL the other Designers - unless one of our "locals" go after them... ;)
Tim, Kelly - what's your bank account status?!? :geek: :geek: :geek:

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 Post subject: Re: BUBINGA DESIGNER BOP
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:27 am 
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Greg, glad it worked out, he seemed very enthusiastic when I talked to him way back when.

Goki, it is getting lower and lower and lower


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 Post subject: Re: BUBINGA DESIGNER BOP
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:20 am 
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Hookd on Phonics wrote:
Hi Gregory,
I believe I spoke with your seller about a bubinga (I think Signature) snare drum at a pretty good price. Nope, it was a black Sonorlite! I really wanted the drum, but the seller wigged me out big time. I simply couldn't afford to lose the money, so I backed away.
Beautiful Set, BTW...
:ugeek: Brian

PS Was your seller named Ronni?


Not the same guy, Brian. His greatest fault was not listening... and now that I think of it, that might explain how he came to be selling this kit, and why, to my good fortune, the kit stayed on the market for at least five months. :? 8-) 8-)

Thanks for the enthusiasm, guys. I told you Lily likes the kit. Says the bass drum looks like an English bulldog. When I told Cliff that, he snorted, "More like an English washing machine." I think Lily is right because it's still working. :shock: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: BUBINGA DESIGNER BOP
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:01 am 
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That kit is gorgeous! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Congratulations, Gregory. It looks like the wait might just have been worth it, huh?! :) :)

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 Post subject: Re: BUBINGA DESIGNER BOP
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:38 am 
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Thanks, Ron. The kit is certainly worth the aggravation. I knew I'd have to chew a good deal of sand at the beginning; not accepting that would have meant not going forward.

I believe this kit had my name on it. How many buyers would there be, in this economy, for such an eccentric deal? The only confidence I had was my old drum teacher who knew the guy, vouched for him, and had played the kit thus verifying its existence. Even at that, my nerves were a bit on edge until all the boxes arrived.

The seller himself seemed a nice enough guy. I didn't sense any dishonesty or shadiness from him personally, which would have stopped everything. He was just... eccentric. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: BUBINGA DESIGNER BOP
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:08 am 
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I'll never get tired of looking at that kit. :)


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 Post subject: Re: BUBINGA DESIGNER BOP
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:29 pm 
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Can't wait to see the kick.


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 Post subject: Re: BUBINGA DESIGNER BOP
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:07 pm 
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Kelly wrote:
Can't wait to see the kick.


Was wondering where you had gone, but good to see you're back to normal. :P :lol:

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