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 Post subject: Side snare's
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:20 am 
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Anyone here use one?


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 Post subject: Re: Side snare's
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:16 am 
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For several months I used another 14" snare drum (wood) on my left, apart from my regular D-505...

I usually had a small cymbal placed on the head, to simulate a techno-snare sound...
Worked rather well, but then w got rid of those songs, and the snare was no longer needed...

From this point of view - I doubt I'll use that setup again - although I'd love to get my hands on a 12" Designer snare... ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Side snare's
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:15 pm 
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Kelly wrote:
Anyone here use one?


Because I've always had a some extra snares w/stands around the house, I have put one up on occasion. Never kept it there long.

I think I'll file that one under: Just because I can doesn't mean I should.

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 Post subject: Re: Side snare's
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:37 pm 
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Gregory wrote:
Kelly wrote:
Anyone here use one?


Because I've always had a some extra snares w/stands around the house, I have put one up on occasion. Never kept it there long.

I think I'll file that one under: Just because I can doesn't mean I should.

Agreed. I always seem to have a few extra snares set up, but whenever I have a side snare on a kit, I never play it. For me the snare is like the lead voice of my kit, so having more than one doesn't make much sense.
:ugeek: Brian

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 Post subject: Re: Side snare's
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:12 pm 
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I have never even been tempted to use a side snare.

I think Brian's explanation probably fits me, too.

Kelly, are you considering adding one to your setup?

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 Post subject: Re: Side snare's
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:44 pm 
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Hookd on Phonics wrote:
For me the snare is like the lead voice of my kit, so having more than one doesn't make much sense.
:ugeek: Brian


Ditto. I have heard recorded songs wherein the apparent use of two snares is quite effective, and I can imagine going that route in the studio. But generally speaking, I think the snare should speak with a couple of distinct voices: open and ringing at the edges and deep and punchy in the center. One reason I very much like the 8" Designer snare is the variation between center and side hits, as I've said before.

But to echo Brian and Cliff; the snare is the central note around which the other drums orbit, so having two might create a problem of focus.

Interesting question.

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 Post subject: Re: Side snare's
PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:37 am 
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I used 2 snares for a while. And watched many players using 2 snares.

I quickly came to the conclusion that unless both drums sounded vastly different, the only person in the room who new you had 2 snares was YOU :oops: .
I used my HLD580 tuned quite fat, and a custom 3mm Aluminium 12x8, or 13x5 Gretsch RM Maple, or 10 Yamaha Tamborito snare thingy pegged up.
After trying to make this work for me, I realised that I really wanted something inbetween. And went back to what had always worked for me.
14x8 (ish), tuned quite high, with wires backed off, still quite fat in the centre, and the rest of the drum is a myriad of snares. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Side snare's
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It makes sense for the R&B guys to have the two, a deep ballad snare and a cracking main snare. Same for drum & bass.

Do I use one,yes sometimes, but its usually upside down so I can scratch the snares as well. I usually only bring it out for an improv show, I don't use them on my regular gigs, I have enough crap to move around...


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 Post subject: Re: Side snare's
PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:38 am 
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Kelly, are you considering adding one to your setup?



No. I tried it awhile back. Admittedly I'm old school. And thought most of us here were.
Honestly the only one I saw do anything interesting with it was Virgil. That's when I tried it.
After watching multiple videos yesterday, seems like everyone has one now and it was more annoying to me than anything else. Seems they all go for that tight timbale sound with it and I hate it. My brain is begging them to get off it. I would hate it by itself but when I have their main snare to use in contrast I really hate it.


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 Post subject: Re: Side snare's
PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:58 am 
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Kelly wrote:
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Seems they all go for that tight timbale sound ...


Where else you gonna go with a second snare... other than upside down? :o :lol: I admit that belly-side up never occurred to me; a snare seems so vulnerable on its back.

Greg (Patterson) uses one, I think. Maybe he'll pipe in.

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