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| Author: | phatsolid [ Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Futureman |
A one-man orchestra. He has always blown me away with his inventiveness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI3XekUlVmo His new set-up has horizontal bass drums so he can play the bottoms with his double pedal and the tops with sticks / beaters.   - David |
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| Author: | Gregory [ Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Futureman |
Interesting post. I've never heard of the Wootens before, but that's not saying anything unusual. Having the bass sideways and center would seem to be the answer to a question I've never asked. The same goes for that electronic drum kit, which looks like a stage prop from an insectoid planet in the Star Wars franchise. Some guys are super investigative about their instruments and about the art form. Makes me feel like a bit of a clod. |
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| Author: | cliff [ Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Futureman |
Hey David, Almost didn’t recognize you with a new avatar. I have been meaning to look at this since you put it up a few days ago. Gotta appreciate a guy willing to look at things in an unconventional way. This particular instrument feels like an effort to create a wheel that is other than round. I need to check out some of his other stuff to see what he is about. I know of Victor, but did not know that he was one of five musician/brothers. Thanks for posting. |
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| Author: | Goki [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Futureman |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxudOI5DgWE A good idea - definitely... Hats off to his inventiveness and skill!!! 
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| Author: | cliff [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Futureman |
Hey Goki, I got to watch the entire clip today, and I wanted to be impressed, but I was not. There were certainly some nice moments and ideas, I didn't see anything special in the set-up but a third way to hit a bass drum (in addition to two foot beaters). A little bit of soprano sax goes a long way with me, and I did not find a lot of low end drum, with a lot of high pitched melody and fairly empty mid-range to be very easy to listen to. Playing two saxes had its moments back when Roland Kirk did it, but just playing 'one man chords' with two horns just seemed like a forced attempt at 'avant garde'. I am not claiming that I could do anything more interesting, but this just felt like two guys trying to hard to display how 'different' they could be. |
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| Author: | Gregory [ Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Futureman |
I have had a notion, hearing from many musicians that academia has become its main home, that jazz itself has come to reflect the currents of modern academia. In my humble view, this is a bad thing for jazz, because academia has become the home of the elite but disconnected. Jazz has always had about it the character of relaxed abstraction - one of the things that makes it attractive - but it has also had about it a drift toward intellectual disconnectedness that I find unattractive, and jazz's association with academia can only exaggerate that drift. I agree there are some interesting moments in here. But everything is de rigueur: the shave-head saxaphonist, the African hairnet, the f-holes which make no design sense in the drums, sparse instrumentation, and the dextrous but passionless performance; the sort of thing academics love because it reinforces their sense of separation and entitlement (If you can't tell, I have bitter criticisms of modern academia). "Two guys displaying how different they could be" is one way of looking at it. Another way is two guys showing how well they can conform to an academic audience's expectations. Which are two ways of saying the same thing. 
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| Author: | phatsolid [ Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Futureman |
Greg - I believe the f-holes are just the vents in the drums (although there was clearly a visual purpose too) and a way to mic the drum from the inside and get the sound of both heads... according to Roy. I have no opinions one way or another about the tones... haven't had a chance to listen and everything sounds crappy through my laptop anyway. Can't imagine is sounds that unique, more just a utilitarian idea for him. Having seen Roy play on his Drumitar with the Flecktones, he is unbelievably flexible and subtle with that thing. He is rarely a focus, just a great accompanist. I certainly agree that the "look at me" hair and dress style comes into all styles. Amazing how all the most standard country music acts all have guitar players that look like they came from the Sex Pistols now! It's a hilarious trend to me. Having been through the academia / jazz training thing, I have MUCHO strong ideas about this topic. But alas, I'm on vacation and am spending more brain energy on what cocktail to create next!  So glad to be part of a friendly, active forum such as this one!! - D. |
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| Author: | Gregory [ Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Futureman |
phatsolid wrote: Having seen Roy play on his Drumitar with the Flecktones, he is unbelievably flexible and subtle with that thing. He is rarely a focus, just a great accompanist. I certainly agree that the "look at me" hair and dress style comes into all styles. Amazing how all the most standard country music acts all have guitar players that look like they came from the Sex Pistols now! It's a hilarious trend to me. Having been through the academia / jazz training thing, I have MUCHO strong ideas about this topic. But alas, I'm on vacation and am spending more brain energy on what cocktail to create next! So glad to be part of a friendly, active forum such as this one!! - D. The country acts! I've seen promo photos and am incredulous at the clothes, hair, and attitudes!   They say "80's rock" so loudly. Hell, I don't even know what era; I wouldn't look at it when it was happening.Sorry I can't be there for the cocktails. Hope you are on the ocean somewhere. |
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| Author: | cliff [ Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Futureman |
phatsolid wrote: ...Having been through the academia / jazz training thing, I have MUCHO strong ideas about this topic. But alas, I'm on vacation and am spending more brain energy on what cocktail to create next! So glad to be part of a friendly, active forum such as this one!! David, Likewise, nice to have you hear, adding to the mix. It is so rewarding to have guys bring new things to the table, and have different opinions in a friendly discussion. Hope you are enjoying your vacation. |
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| Author: | cliff [ Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Futureman |
cliff wrote: phatsolid wrote: ...Having been through the academia / jazz training thing, I have MUCHO strong ideas about this topic. But alas, I'm on vacation and am spending more brain energy on what cocktail to create next! So glad to be part of a friendly, active forum such as this one!! David, Likewise, nice to have you here, adding to the mix. It is so rewarding to have guys bring new things to the table, and have different opinions in a friendly discussion. Hope you are enjoying your vacation. |
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