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 Post subject: Simple question
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 3:25 am 
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How many of you guys use a bass drum patch?!?

Do You think it effects the sound of the head, or not?!?

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 Post subject: Re: Simple question
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:26 am 
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I do on my gigging kits, simply because it extends the life of the batter head. I do think it affects the sound a little, makes it somewhat clicky until it wears in, unless you use a heavy felt beater on your pedal.

my 2cents, hope all is well over there!


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 Post subject: Re: Simple question
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:36 am 
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I only use the Evans EQ pads. Going on years now. They all dampen the head, similar to moongel, but these are the only one's I have found that minimize that effect. They are smaller in size and pretty thin, reducing the dampening.

I do have plans for some experimenting coming up with open sounding bass drums and bigger rounder softer beaters which will include no patch.


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 Post subject: Re: Simple question
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 12:34 pm 
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I'm with Kelly... I only use the Evans ones. They are made out of something similiar to thin cloth and they don't affect the attack of the beater like a lot of the other brands. A lot of the other ones seem to be made of a plastic like a thick drum head, and they make the beater sound like "clack" instead of "doom" to me. I guess the metal guys like that sound.

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 Post subject: Re: Simple question
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:44 pm 
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I like the EVANS patches too - but that stuff is unavailable here... :(

So, I guess I'll try the REMO, unless I can find a similar material, and make a patch myself...


I asked about this because I used patches before, but then I changed the heads on my 18" Gretsch Catalina bd.
I put a Coated Emperor as Reso, and a Coated PS3 as batter... The sound is phenomenal, but after 3 gigs, the damage on the bass pedal beAter (which is a Pearl Quadbatter - the fat side) is evident. I need to stop this process somehow. I hadn't had this problem in the last 3 years, with the EVANS patch nad the regular head I had.

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 Post subject: Re: Simple question
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:53 pm 
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Right on Dave. Some patches are unbelievably ridiculous. Like "why even have a bass drum ridiculous". It's like sticking a drum on your head.

Goki just find the thinnest smallest felt type you can find.


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 Post subject: Re: Simple question
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 2:00 pm 
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Evans has two different EQ series patches - EQ Plastic (white) and EQ Nylon (black), as well as an AF Series which is made of Kevlar.

I use the EQ Nylon patch on kick heads. Evans claims that they soften the attack slightly; they must use better measurement equipment than my ears. I don't percieve any difference in sound with this patch.

It does seem to add some additional strength to the impacted area, but I don't often play at volume levels likely to indent the kick head.

At other times I have used the kevlar AF patch, and they do add significant dent resistance, along with a noticeably increased level of 'tick' to the attack. Not something I would use for anything but heavier attack playing.

Tim / Kelly,

Are you using the plastic (white) or nylon (black)?

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 Post subject: Re: Simple question
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:50 pm 
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one of the clicky ones because I am too stupid to try the Evans ones, I'll pick one up!Thanks for the tip


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 Post subject: Re: Simple question
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:51 pm 
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tim wrote:
one of the clicky ones because I am too stupid to try the Evans ones, I'll pick one up!Thanks for the tip

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I've never used one, other than the Evans patch that comes with the head that I tore off after playing for a couple of minutes. However, given the wear on my felt beater after using it on a coated head, I can see the problem. Hadn't used coated bass batter heads until I got the Gretsch.

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 Post subject: Re: Simple question
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 8:14 pm 
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The Remo Falam patches are considerably thicker than Evans, and choke the head.
The Aquarian thin patch is good, kinda big in area, but you can cut them down.

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