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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:34 pm 
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Long gone are the days when one would buy an album and listen to it hundreds of times before getting the next one...

http://thetrichordist.wordpress.com/201 ... onsidered/

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:39 pm 
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Very interesting read, Nick.

Straight to the heart of the ethical issue.

Thanks for posting.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:30 pm 
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He's delirious.
And I hate the way he writes.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:50 pm 
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Kelly wrote:
He's delirious...

Why do you think so?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:19 pm 
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... aside from a split infinitive or two?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:15 am 
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A) He expresses himself like a 5th grader.
B) All of us can present a problem, to do so without a realistic solution is just being a whiney little bitch.
The solutions he presented can't even be taking seriously. To ask the multitudes, who don't want to pay for music, to "donate" is comical. If you could get gas for free would you donate to the guy who owns the gas station?
To ask folks to pay for something they can get for free is seriously delusional.
If it is illegal, going after the guy buying the nickel bag is useless without going after the guy distributing it.

Some years back Tool and Die makers, thousands of them, saw their field disappear with the advent of automated machinery. My 55 year old friend who did duct work his entire life found nothing to do a few years back with all the "already made, in a box" flexible duct.
These people of any less value than a muscian?
With music it's a whole new world now. The way the world is headed. To ask the whole world not to go that way is like asking the farmer to go back and milk cows by hand.

To suggest people buy 2000 dollars worth of equipment to get free music is also a stupid premise. They already had the stuff, and it just happens to play music. The writer suggests the whole world evolves around music. I had a computer and didn't buy it because it played music.
I like watching movies too. Do I need to donate to the people in them soon?

To attack, it seems, one DJ who admits to using free music, which also appears that DJ has no way to respond, is beyond cheap. To then arrogantly state they wouldn't be accepting reply's, except those they selectively choose, is just piling the turds on. I was on a drum forum like that and it smelled a lot like toilet.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:16 am 
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Let’s first separate content from style. I can find a number of circumstances in which the writing is less than proper, but in which I respect the content enough to overlook some delivery issues.

Manual labor replaced by machine is not the same issue as theft because technology has made it easy.

Knowingly accepting stolen goods is no better than stealing them, regardless how easy or prevalent technology has made it to do so.

The suggestion of a donation was not to imply that it was a viable royalty system; it is about as efficient a way to right the wrong as confession, but it is a step towards acknowledging wrong.

I think a solution was presented, which was, in part:

• Realize and acknowledge that violation of copyright laws and rights under them is wrong, even if it is easy, and;

• Encourage, or better, demand the enforcement of these rights and laws, perhaps instead of the other dumbass things that government chooses to focus on.

For example, I’d be happier if the federal government had diverted the resources expended to make life unnecessarily difficult for Greg and Lily on copyright protection. I would say the same for the money spent on speed limit enforcement, but that is just because that is occasionally inconvenient for me.

There are even situations where entire businesses have developed, based wholly on the notion of identifying violators of particular laws (e.g. license plate identification), and I suspect that this is because there is revenue potential in this for the government, whereas music copyright enforcement only benefits musicians.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:49 am 
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I too can seperate content from style. Doesn't mean I won't comment on it. Remember, I write on about a 4th grade level. And I don't mind it being, lets say, mentioned.

But it is the same, technology has made getting music easier. The same way it has made getting everything easier.
The music industry did a lousey job in the beginning at handling this fiasco. Now it's a mess.
While I don't condone illegal activity, to expect the population to "realize and acknowledge that violation of copyright laws and rights under them is wrong" and act accordingly is the seriously dilusional part.

They have "License plate recognition" because nice people like you and me, who know we shouldn't speed, do.

This part I agee with: "Better enforcement of these rights and laws".
The dude barking at the offender, is barking up the wrong tree. Like telling the alcoholic he shouldn't drink.


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Given the reality of human nature, I agree that it's unreasonable to expect change because it is "the moral thing to do". In this day and age, even the notion of moral truth is under attack.

However, the writer was not barking at an offender so much as he was presenting moral truth (however unpopular a notion) and pointing out the fallacies of the apologist.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:26 am 
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Kelly wrote:
...The dude barking at the offender, is barking up the wrong tree. Like telling the alcoholic he shouldn't drink.

Three questions:

Are you suggesting that violators of copyright laws and rights do so because of some sort of a medical or genetic circumstance? :?

Even if it it legally wrong, don't you think it woul be more convenient for you and I if we could drive at any speed we wish, even if it meant possible harm to others?

Who do we charge with keeping alcohol out of the hands of alcoholics?

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