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 Post subject: Re: joyful noise drums
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:28 am 
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 Post subject: Re: joyful noise drums
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:01 pm 
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Wow seems like a reasonable price, I've got my eye on a 5" black beauty in the UK at the moment, but will bear in mind... Bloody UK import fees are quite ridiculous unfortunately...
The BBs seem very interesting sound wise to me...

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 Post subject: Re: joyful noise drums
PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:51 am 
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I've come back to metal snares recently have a few thoughts.

The Non Hammered Bronze Ludwig I have had for years is my benchmark. That drum can do pretty much anything I want it to with tuning and snare tension adjustments. It is fantastic in the studio .

My Ludwig Supra is an all around backbeat drum. Thats what it does well. Sensitive it isnt

I wanted a Brass snare but didnt want to spend the money on a BB. I ended up with two wildly different snares instead, A Pearl Sensitone with single flanges and a Yamaha Seamless brass with Die Cast hoops. The sensitone is a cool drum, it lacks a bit of presence in louder situations but is sensitive and has a great tone in the right situation. The Single flange hoops give it a unique voice.
The Yamaha is a beast. It has punch, sensitivity and presence all rolled up into one. A great brass snare. Dont spend 700 more on a different drum

My favorite is the Yamaha Copper. It is an older seamless drum that sounds like a cross between a brass, bronze and aluminum snare. Its the only way I can describe it.It has punch when you need it, sensitive at the edges, great rimshot/click and dries out pretty quickly after it is struck. It is a more cutting version of a 557.

I dont know if this helps or not. Last time I recorded I swapped around a bunch of snares and found the ludwig sat in the mix better than any of the others. I like the copper best for live work when I am not using a wood snare. I plan on getting rid of all the others and keeping my 577 and radio king. Sometime....


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 Post subject: Re: joyful noise drums
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:04 am 
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Thanks Tim, I guess the only real way of discerning what one likes is to try a large variety... So your favourite drum is a Yamaha copper snare?
I tend to have a sound in my head which I then try to impose on any snare that I use regardless of size/material, once I've achieved that it's those extra characteristics of each drum that eventually determine whether I continue to use it above another one.
On another forum there was one guy saying how he chooses a snare for its sound (rather than tuning a drum to 'his' sound) and obviously has a large collection... For me there would be too much choice :-D http://www.houseofdrumming.com/phpbb3/v ... 6&start=10

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 Post subject: Re: joyful noise drums
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:03 pm 
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percusski wrote:
On another forum there was one guy saying how he chooses a snare for its sound (rather than tuning a drum to 'his' sound) and obviously has a large collection... For me there would be too much choice :-D


If I were a studio pro, I'd probably collect (in the sense of have a lot of) snares in order to have a palette of musical colors on hand. Gigging with one or two bands, on the other hand, I'd just find that collection confusing, and would only use one most of the time. Too much trouble trying to guess which drum would be perfect.

If I had some extra funds, I'd like to have a few snares to work with; it's always interesting to discover whether more goodness is to be had in other places, but I'm grateful for what I've got so no complaints.

Tim, copper would be interesting. What is a 557?

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 Post subject: Re: joyful noise drums
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:03 pm 
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I guess I would rephrase that to favorite metal snare. It really has its own voice and I like its ability to sound good in a variety of tunings
Greg I meant a LD547 Lite. Early morning typing is not my forte anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: joyful noise drums
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:30 am 
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Lite snare has a fair amount of cut, seems to me, particularly played off center, and the rim shots pack plenty of chesty punch. Still, it would be fun to have a metal thing to play with.

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 Post subject: Re: joyful noise drums
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:30 am 
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Didn't win the Ludwig... Anyway moving on
This drum sounds incredible, amazing also as only 4" depth: https://youtu.be/-zSA0ghOHls
I would also say that I think this guy is producing some of the most beautiful drums out there, this one I can't take my eyes off of: https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?st ... 2290353977

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 Post subject: Re: joyful noise drums
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:52 am 
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Mmm. Candy. Mmm-money.

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 Post subject: Re: joyful noise drums
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:32 pm 
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Ha ha yes very true... there's nothing like playing a great instrument to bring out the best in one's playing though

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