On drums...

Tim, way off topic but how is the work situation going.

You looking to pick up a Hilite snare?
today was a state holiday so technically I have still only been unemployed for one full day, have to go to the career center tomorrow for orientation, etc.
Thanks for asking

I prefer 7x14 shells as well. But, I'd have to concede that your ears are better than my fifty year old hard rock club-gig ravaged ears, Kelly. I have (my favorite snare I've EVER owned) an LD-547X (throw off II) and had an LD-557 (Parallel) that I sold to VeeJay. When I had them side by side and tuned similarly, and they sounded closer to me than say, a Ludwig Supraphonic 402 and a Super-Sensitive. The 557 was, perhaps just a bit crisper to me. I didn't go nuts trying to match up every nuance, but the differences were not as great as I might have thought, and nowhere near what some on the fauxrum had touted at the time. Which is why I sold it. If I have two drums that are too similar, one of them has to go, or I feel like a hoarder. But, I did try to buy that one back from VeeJay, but it's his go-to gig drum, and he won't sell it!

But, If I were to spec an SQ2 (HIGHLY unlikely) I'd build a 7x14 very similar to your drum; except I'd see if I could get a 12 ply (like an original Lite) or more shell.

Maybe I'll build an Eames!

Speaking of non-Sonor snare drums, I've got another favorite 7x14. It's a Paul Mason (Tempus) 7x14 surplus shell in Vintage Green Glitter. It has 8 1930s Ludwig Imperial lugs, and a either Ludwig a P-83 or a P-86 Throw (same two holes) Kick-Ass mongrel drum!

I also have a 1941 WFL WMP 7x14. Great Drum, but I'll probably sell it sometime, as I rarely play it.
All the Best,
Brian

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Drums and No Money will get Me through Hard Times better than Money and No Drums!
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Wishing All the Best for You, Tim!

Brian

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Drums and No Money will get Me through Hard Times better than Money and No Drums!
-A Recovering Drum Addict

This is turning into a great topic...

I personally doubt I'll ever have the chance to test that many snares - but having input from someone that tested (and owned) them is great for building a snare drum reference...

When we're speaking of SQ2, I think one can build a long lug 8" snare, if they still have the Designer long lugs. That would be a unique design.
I think I've read someplace that because of that off-center drilling for the single lug, the shell had an uneven tension, and that's why they stick to short lugs on both sides.

Having an S Classix in 6", I remember that if I used rim shot on top of the single lug, the bottom screw would loosen a bit... :S I guess the vibration did what it did...

Tim - keep the spirit high... Good things always come to good people.
Marta and me are struggling to find a suitable job for her for almost a year now, with no luck... but, we keep our spirits high - good things come for those who wait, right...

God bless You all...

And Cliff - congratulations on the purchase, once again... I personally would love to get me a shorter version (5,75") when I have the funds... Trouble is, every time I think of spending 350euro, a Designer snare comes to mind...
Now, where did I put those 350euro?!?

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Let the good drums roll!!!

Good luck Tim!

Mapex makes a complete line of incredible snares. There is one of everything in every size.
I gigged for 10 straight years on a Slingerland 6.5 Bell brass. More than once I got asked about it. Incredible sounding. Thing sounded like wood, drummers were perplexed. I still don't know how I did it. It was a "moody" drum. Everything affected it. As the temp varied so did the sound of it. But when it was on...it was ON.
There's a lot to be said about owning one snare. I never heard of owning two snares back then. I worked on that thng before every practice and every gig. Gave it to my nephew 15 years ago, he still has it.

Brain...my ears will be 50 this year. The rest of me will stay 49
They are also rock club ravaged. I find those two snares to be night and day.

Out of Sonor snares....the absolute most dry unique sounding loudest snare I have ever owned was the 6.5 Sig snares. They are very little reso and sheer volume. I have found no other snare that does that like those.
The worst sounding I have ever owned was the 8 x 14 Bronze. Most unmusical snare on the planet. Sound like a 55 gallon drum. When I got one I thought I got a bad one. So I ended up buying 5 more, in every version. Turned out I got 6 bad ones. Hate those drums.

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Cliff

River City Trio

What if we did all have the same opinions?

Hey, Tim, sometimes the worst awful crap happens to 'good' people, too, but it always has a purpose. And that's not wishy hopey hooey!

Brian, what you have said about your two Lite snares reiterates what Tony Costello told me. He gigs his TO2 model (because it easier to handle) and does all his cymbal recording with the parallel. He told me he could not tell the difference between the die cast hoops and the huge triple flange, but that the parallel was a perhaps shade more sensitive. Kelly, what you are saying about the weight of all that hardware certainly makes sense but since I don't have the 7.25 parallel I can't make personal comment.

I love the 8" Designer snare but can't get that same soft woodiness that the Lite snare makes, that sounds like rolling something delicious about in your mouth. I think a lot of that sound is the birch, because the Classix has it in thinner form but without the body and sensitivity.

The Signature light has it with a deeper body. My {very faded} memory of my Radio King relates to these snares. Wish I still had that, to try it out.

I was just listening to some recordings of the Rogers wood Dynasonic - hopelessly expensive drums - but I didn't hear anything there that made me wake up.

Anybody want to buy a mint with original heads in original box piccolo Teardrop in that crazy black stripe over sliver wrap? What can a person do with a piccolo aside from say you own it? What happened to the rest of the drum? Who even thought these things up? Drum manufacturers looking to make two or three times the money from one shell? Obviously no one played this one long enough to change heads! Not mine; someone is trying to sell it to me, and he wants five bills for it .

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Gregory

That's absolutely incredible to me that one would say there is no difference between diecast and triple flange hoops.
Suppose the same person would say there is no difference between 10 and 12 lug.

The 3flange batter hoop on the Lite is so thick and heavy it might as well be die cast.

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Gregory