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Kelly
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:00 pm 
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Never tried them Greg. Afraid if I did I would like them. Though they did seem to be much heavier than the 15's I have.
I didn't want to be tempted with something I would struggle with later if I ever wanted to turn them around.
Getting my money back was a better option.
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Jeff
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:33 pm 
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I thought Murat Diril made Paiste Twenty series? :oops:
I know that EVERY Turkish cymbal manufacturer is in the original Zildjian factory. :shock: :lol:

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cliff
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Jeff,

I do not know for certain, but my understanding is that Diril provided blanks, or some level of sub-assembly, but not sure they provided finished product.

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Jeff
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cliff wrote:
Jeff,

I do not know for certain, but my understanding is that Diril provided blanks, or some level of sub-assembly, but not sure they provided finished product.


Murat Diril, or Ibrahim Diril? :? I know yours are Ibrahim's, I thought Murat Diril made for Paiste.
I know Meinl's B20 Cymbals are outsourced and made in Turkey. They are stamped 'made in turkey', I thought (possibly assumed :roll: ) Paiste Twenty's were the same.

http://muratdiril.com/

http://www.dirilcymbals.com/dirilcymbal ... sp?w=about

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cliff
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As I understand it, both Ibrahim and Murat. See this link for a 2009 statement purportedly from Erik Paiste.

Not sure anyone but I & M Diril and Paiste know the whole story.

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Goki
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Both Ibrahim and Murat worked on prefabricating the Twenty line.....

and both have GREAT cymbals...

I too am thinking on getting an AD set - the SPECIAL series set I have is magnificent, too... :)

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