On drums...

Hi guys hope everyone is well?
Recently I've found myself being drawn to metal snares, although haven't actually owned one since the 593 I got rid of years ago.
This (online) journey had led me to Joyful Noise drumshttp://www.joyfulnoisedrumcompany. ... ducts.html
Had anyone had any experience with these? Some of the youtube reviews have sounded very interesting and they seem like a nice small company with the right ethos...pricey though!!
Where do you all stand re metal snares and the different shell materials, preferences etc?

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No experience with Joyful Noise, Nick.

As to metal snares generally, I got rid of my Signature chromed steel 6.5 a few years ago. I wish I hadn't, because it would be nice to have its voice on tap.

I owned a Rogers steel Dynasonic many years ago and never got attached to it. I thought it should be much better, given its reputation. The Sig, on the other hand, was a great drum. I used it for venues that needed more cut than a wood snare delivered. I would love to try it in the low volume situations I'm now playing, to hear how its depth and ring work musically. The 6.5 Sig with die cast hoops was a very musical drum, and had a character unlike any other snare I've ever played. The weight seemed to work for it, and the dry characteristic of the die cast hoops also worked in its favor.

I would not be a candidate for owning the bronze Sig 590. It was too loud, and had too specific a sound. I have played a brass Ludwig and didn't much like it, either, although it was better than bronze snares. It was also loud and hard to control. I have enjoyed the sound of some sonor brass snares, but I have no first hand report.

Unfortunately, that exhausts my experience with metal snares. If this seems to ramble on, blame the meds.

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Gregory

I do not own one, but I have played a few. They all sound good, but not worth the price. However, the company donates part of the money to charity. While nice, I'd prefer to do my own donating, thank you.

Anyway, the HLD 593 is more versatile than the 590.

I do have a Ludwig Hammered Bronze Superphonic 6.5 x 14 that sounds really good. In fact I prefer it over a chrome one any day.

There is a newer company making metal drums… http://oriollo.com they are making spun metal shells, including manganese… made in Serbia.

I've heard that the Joyful Noise are a little temperamental (both drum to drum and sometimes tuning wise on one drum) but some people swear by them and I've heard some interesting examples on video, the problem is in the UK there's no chance of even trying them and I'd never fork out that much without trying first.
How versatile did you find the Ludwig bronze Latz, sensitive and dynamic or just a backbeat drum?
The Oriollo could be interesting but again where to try... And what type edge would I want... Too many variables
The Sig 6.5 sounds interesting Greg, I like the idea of a musical shell with character but not uncontrollable overtones and ring, nothing deeper than 6.5....have even been thinking Black Beauty ha!

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The 6.5 was a special drum. I sold it when I first got an 8 deep maple light Designer, because the Designer had all the cut I thought I wanted. Later, I came to realize that my frustration with the Designer strainer - either choked or rattly - made the drum less than optimal for me. Cliff's Designer(s) sounds great, but he gets his sound at the expense of ringing sustain, whereas I like a snare to sustain with a strong note, in addition to having abrupt punch in a solid center strike - and sensitivity.

Only trouble with the Sig is the same problem with all Sonor parallels: positioning.

Don't know about the Black Beauty, but I'd love to hear if you get one. Since we both are using the Lite 547x (although I believe you are using a die cast model vs my 3flange), it's a good standard from which to discuss other snares.

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Gregory

For me its mostly a backbeat drum, but I think it has the potential for a better player to be sensitive…

The bronze has a little more body than a chrome shell and the hammering helps mellow the overtones a bit…

Here's mine with the old twin channel hoops.. and dirty!

Yep. Just as there are outfielders who can dive for a line drive and then, suspended horizontal in midair, fire a 300 footer straight to home plate, there are drummers whose hands or feet are capable of taming the ridiculous. Vids of Pretty Purdy show him playing whisper beats on the 590. Well, good on 'im, even though I still don't like the sound. But more ordinary clods like me need a bit more help, because one false move with a loud drum is a very loud move indeed, and I hate to have to play terrified of my instrument.

Even the best outfielder will occasionally deliver airmail, sending all the runners at least to attempt the next base, and I ain't him.

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Gregory

Yeah still mainly using the 7.25 Lite with die casts, although my 5" designer maple sounds great. I'll keep you updated Greg, it may just be a fad that will amount to nothing
That Ludwig bronze looks cool, I'd imagine it has as raspy backbeat but plenty of tones to explore around the drumhead at different dynamics. Does it prefer a low to mid tuning?

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It is versatile tuning wise.

A friend of mine and I have agreed that the Ludwig hammered bronze is the best, for the price and sound, mass produced snare on the market. Its not priced too high that you are afraid to take it out, and if something did, heaven forbid, happen to it, it could be fairly easily replaced…. Some of the older Sonor stuff is getting hard to come by, therefor making them harder and more costly to replace...

Going to have to add that to the list to try, they're still about £700 in the UK though... Ouch

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