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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:26 am 
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This is surely an interesting drum for a Sonor snare collector, although it seems to be reaching. It will come with the usual Signature baggage: heavy shell, die cast hoops, snare gates that are enormous but impractical for the drum, and a high price expectation with the seller fishing for offers :shock

Nice photos, but none shows the throw-off or the gates.

It also has the badge, but if not for that, how would you know?

http://www.sonormuseum.com/forum/viewto ... 19&t=10187

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:48 am 
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I've seen that drum in the past trading hands.
There are quite a few deceptions in the Link era world now. Some drums being hocked as original and rare.
When I know first hand that is not case.
For instance, quite a few "rare and mint condition" 6" Signature toms, in nearly every finish has come through in the last few years. I know these drums were after market. Yes, Sonor made them, but by request of a "special friend" that wished to market them, knowing the rarity and what 6" toms were commanding.
There is a look about these drums that stick out to me and I can usually discern. This drum has that look but I wouldn't accuse or swear by it. It does look an aweful lot, almost exactly, like the Signature 8 x 14's Sonor made me a few years back that were Scandinavian birch.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:21 am 
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Kelly wrote:
I've seen that drum in the past trading hands.
There are quite a few deceptions in the Link era world now. Some drums being hocked as original and rare.
When I know first hand that is not case.
For instance, quite a few "rare and mint condition" 6" Signature toms, in nearly every finish has come through in the last few years. I know these drums were after market. Yes, Sonor made them, but by request of a "special friend" that wished to market them, knowing the rarity and what 6" toms were commanding.
There is a look about these drums that stick out to me and I can usually discern. This drum has that look but I wouldn't accuse or swear by it. It does look an aweful lot, almost exactly, like the Signature 8 x 14's Sonor made me a few years back that were Scandinavian birch.



Interesting information, Kelly. The few years ago you mention, surely that was more than a few? 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: mmmmmSIGNATURE
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:50 am 
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Kelly wrote:
I've seen that drum in the past trading hands.
There are quite a few deceptions in the Link era world now. Some drums being hocked as original and rare.
When I know first hand that is not case.
For instance, quite a few "rare and mint condition" 6" Signature toms, in nearly every finish has come through in the last few years. I know these drums were after market. Yes, Sonor made them, but by request of a "special friend" that wished to market them, knowing the rarity and what 6" toms were commanding.
There is a look about these drums that stick out to me and I can usually discern. This drum has that look but I wouldn't accuse or swear by it. It does look an aweful lot, almost exactly, like the Signature 8 x 14's Sonor made me a few years back that were Scandinavian birch.



I'm glad Gregory posted this, and even more glad to read your response, Kelly. I've been very suspicious of that drum from the first post . All the hardware looks like it came off an LD400 like mine, and the badge could have come from a stand. Other than the badge, there's nothing factory Signature specific. Even the SY Signature Series rolled brass drum that Tim and I share has unique cast lugs; they share the side by side configuration that my Lite has, but they are much nicer looking. A beech heavy floor tom (or late built-to-order drums like yours) could be a veritable goldmine for drums like these.
I was tempted to ask where the breather vent resides on the drum, but I decided "why bother?" Nobody wants to face the truth over there no matter how hard they're being beaten about the face by it.

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Kelly wrote:
I've seen that drum in the past trading hands.
There are quite a few deceptions in the Link era world now. Some drums being hocked as original and rare.
When I know first hand that is not case.
For instance, quite a few "rare and mint condition" 6" Signature toms, in nearly every finish has come through in the last few years. I know these drums were after market. Yes, Sonor made them, but by request of a "special friend" that wished to market them, knowing the rarity and what 6" toms were commanding.
There is a look about these drums that stick out to me and I can usually discern. This drum has that look but I wouldn't accuse or swear by it. It does look an aweful lot, almost exactly, like the Signature 8 x 14's Sonor made me a few years back that were Scandinavian birch.



Well, if people start doing this on drums, where's the world going to?!?
I must say, this snare doesn't have that "age" look. It must have spent a LOT of time in the box...

Otherwise, SONOR is known to make exceptions, if "the right person" calls. That's why I'm not surprised about the 6" Signature tom (true) story. Which, no matter how You look on things, is NOT FAIR.

You either stick to your attitude, and don't satisfy drummers wishes, or be a big friend and help everyone.
Selective approach makes me puke...

By the way, have You seen the Red Sonorlite on ebay.de?!?
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Shellset-Sonor-L ... 3cc10310b5

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