On drums...

You think so?!?

Compared to my Designer double cymbal stand - the hi hat I have is almost the same weight...
My old Yamaha 700 series hi hat stand was almost half the weight...

I'm after something light but sturdy... Durable...

We shall see...

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Goki - short from Goran

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Not any more...

I just picked both up, and you are right; the 600 is a good bit lighter, but not so much lighter that I would buy it for that reason alone. Unlike cymbal stands which (except for certain awkward set-up situations) require little more than vertical stability, hat stands can see some very interesting forces, and as such require a bit of bulk for torsional as well as vertical stress.

Obviously, you might be willing to sacrifice a bit of durability (as in long range, not short term where the piece falls apart while you're playing) for weight. I think much of the drum hardware weight is just hardware fetish rather than practical consideration. Most folks are not planning to hang from their cymbal stands. I like the flat leg DW stands generally, and that DW 6500 weighing in at 5 lbs. might be a good piece, assuming you play on fairly flat ground!

http://www.steveweissmusic.com/product/ ... hat-stands

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Gregory

Yeah I was going to say no way they could weigh the same.
While a Sig/Phonic hihat feels terrific, they were noticeably sluggish (well..lets say took more effort to achieve the same result) after getting into the newer series.

I agree with Greg, that stuff is just marvelous to have. I would like to have a room full. But to use it in my daily routine would be sacrificing one quality for another and the trade off would be pretty unbalanced.

I play my Lite hihatstand for over 25 years now. It may be a bit heavy but I never found a hihatstand that feels so good (for my foot). It starts to get old now (like it's boss) so I must go find a replacement. Maybe a 600, I don't know yet. 200€ is a lot of money...

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SQ2Tigerwood, Steve Smith kit, SClassix scandi,Teardrop rosewood, Swinger blue ripple,snares: D505, D554, Steve Smith snares, SQ2 13x6.5 scandi, Benny Greb signature, Artist cottonwood, Lite

Hey, Rob, what do you mean by a Lite hat? Signature?

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Gregory

Prob a Sig looking hihat without the badges and levers.

Just like the one You sold me Kelly...
Here's a hi hat and a SONORLITE (not mine - both)...



Remember this picture Rob?!?

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Goki - short from Goran

Let the good drums roll!!!

Well - I went to the drum shop Friday...

They have the HH444 model...
Two mayor weak points:
1) They have the old lugs...
2) The hi hat rod is standard - no hex rod...

Search moves on...

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Goki - short from Goran

Let the good drums roll!!!

Are those things labeled Goki? Are you sure it was a 400 series?
I'm only asking because I had a few of both series, 600 and 400, and neither were labeled. Is it possible the one you looked at was a 200 series?
My 400's had hexrods and the Sonor site shows them with hexrods in pictures and description.

You're absolutely right Kelly - but You're talking about the HH 484...

Back here - they sell the HH 444 (that thing has some serious issues)...

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Goki - short from Goran

Let the good drums roll!!!